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how to use part of a cell for calculation

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Hi,

I get 4-6 with this formula in cell D5 =IF(ISTEXT(F5),SUM($J$4:J4)+1&"-"&SUM($J$4:J5),"-") 

and again 4-6 in E5 with this formula  =IF(B4=B5,(SUM($J$4:J4)+1&"-"&SUM($J$4:J5)),(SUM(J4:J4)+1&"-"&SUM(J4:J5))).

I want to use the number 4 and 6 from D5 and E5 for calculations in other cells, How can I do that ?

Please help. Is it possible ?

regards


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